Thursday, May 28, 2009

Good question posed... why no Muslim outrage of the following

Good question posed... why no Muslim outrage of the following?
Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage. Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage. Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage. A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage. Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage. Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage. Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage. Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage. Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage. Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage. Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged. Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.
Religion & Spirituality - 19 Answers
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muslims are bloody sick bastards mate
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Just shows you what islam really is about
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actually thats not true Shaykh Saalih al-Lehaydaan says deadly attacks in USA are a "terrible crime"... Shaykh Saalih al-Lehaydaan says (Friday 14 September, 2001) deadly attacks in USA are a "terrible crime"... The deadly attacks in the United States are a "terrible crime" which Islam does not accept and no one should applaud them, the head of Saudi Arabia's Islamic judiciary said in comments published Friday. "Killing a person who has not committed a crime is one of the major sins and terrible crimes... What happened in America is... undoubtedly a grave criminal act which Islam does not approve of and no one should applaud," Shaykh Saalih al-Lehaydaan mentioned. al-Lahaydaan, who is also a member of the Council of Senior Scholars in Saudi Arabia, said Islam strictly forbids bloodletting and does not condone the killing of innocent people, especially in a collective manner. Several Islamic groups and organisations have condemned Tuesday's attacks in New York and Washington, describing them as a "horrible and hideous act." Saudi Arabia, home to Islam's holiest sites, has condemned the jetliner suicide bombings and offered to help in the hunt for the perpetrators.
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well, I dont think u should generalise a religion. there are black spots in all religions. howeverat the same time you cannot ignore these facts. At this time, when the whole community is under attack because of some fanatics, the muslim liberals should also come out. It is important, and it is unfortunately becoming necessary as there is the danger of all the muslims becoming typecast. The leaders of the religion are either fanatics or too weak, because of which there is a need for some to raise up their voices and probably put their lives in danger for the sake of their own religion.
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An excellent question indeed. Muslims are just things who love war and bloodshed...(they are too inhumane to b called human)
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that right the christian did half that they want hang them
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Muslims are not bloody sick bastards u idiot. That is not what islam is about. Instead of saying muslims did this muslims did that say a group of people.How about I say priest are gay and rape little boys no outrage..It would be wrong because u cannot judge everyone from one persons action.The only reason why u r saying these things about muslims is because that is all u see in the news because that is what they try to portray muslims as. Grow up..In the next couple of years it will be another religion that we will be going to war with. First they we're killing black people then it was the jews now they are going to war with muslims..whose next? Who will the white man target next? I dont understand..Arent u ppl overjoyed when a muslim is killed? When bombs are thrown on muslim countries?
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I've actually seen on pictures on-line that Muslims are overjoyed about September 11th, but there are killers in every religion.
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it doesn't show you what islam is really about. what about all the islamic people who are fighting in our army? i'm sure they are plenty outraged, dont assume that just because someone doesn't start a riot that means that they aren't completely against the horrible things done in their God's name. The real reason the sensible muslims didn't start a riot after 9/11, even though they were horrified, is because they are sensible. and the reason the muslims that aren't sensible did start a riot after the cartoon is because they aren't sensible
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good job. so you been collecting all the negative thing about islam. i dare you to show the positive side of Islam. but no way. there is no different between you and the media. that's exactly what media is trying to do .
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Urm..dear sir..how do u know that the person who killed the children (christian in indonesia) was muslim? did the television show u the process of the killing, no right? dont just the tele tell u this and that u took it by heart. For e.g. what had happen in Iraq when people said the muslim kidnapped the reporters etc..how can u tell that the person behind the mask is a muslim? just because he spoke arabic so he's a muslim? what about a christian who lived in egypt, doesnt he speak arabic too? Plus nowadays people can converse in arabic fluently if they took up arabic class. Sir i hope that u and other (both muslim and christian) stop being a racist of religion. Start respecting other people religion as it will help us to make world a better place to live in. world PEace
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I think you make a fabulous point! I am NOT Muslim however, I had to take a class on world religions in college and I just wanted to share with you what I learned. The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible)-(note the verse number) Koran (9:11 ) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace!
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Not only do they not oppose these things, They celebrate in the streets when Jews or Christians are killed. They go into ecstatic frenzies & celebrate by shooting guns in the air & they have their pictures taken with the corpses. They do NOT have a religion of peace. They do NOT respect life. They do NOT show tolerance for other religions. If they did; then why are church bells forbidden in Islamic countries? Why do they prohibit Jews from going onto the Temple Mound?
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They usually point out a few Americanized Muslim cleric's voicing concern about these things but fail to realize if Muslims reacted to all these insidious crimes by Muslims GLOBALLY like they did with those stupid cartoons of Muhammad - if they with one voice condemned with outrage these beheadings THEN the world might be convinced Islam was really a religion of peace. Instead all you get is a few voices with the weight of whispering in a closed room so they don't offend the violent of Islam. There are indeed some Muslims who would like peace - but the violent ones are having their way. The peaceful are negated by the violent ones.
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I think it's similar to the Christian response -- they weren't "real" Muslims. "Real" Christians weren't Crusaders "Real" Christians never slaughtered heretics "Real" Christians didn't ship Jews, gypsies, the handicapped, etc. to concentration camps where they could be used as slave labor and burned in ovens. In both cases, they may not have been "real" Muslims/Christians, but they allowed it to happen. "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good people do nothing." Edmund Burke
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Muslims are on the receiving end of practically all the wars going on in the world today, why is the world not outraged? The only reason why I bordered to answer this undeniably skewed question is to set the records straight as regards karen's answer to the Question....I hope she gets to read it. The Holy Quran Chapter 9, verse 11 has nothing to do with any eagle: it states.... ..But if they repent, establish regular prayers, and pay Zakah, they are your brethren in Faith: thus do We explain the Signs in detail, for those who understand. Quran 9, verse 11. I wonder where she gets that quote from , It is definitely not a verse of the Holy Quran.
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I think that before we spek to this problem we should all take a serious look at all of todays religions. Questions to be answered: 1. What religion spreads through violent behavior? 2. Out of all of todays conflics, what religion is at the heart of most. 3. What religion teaches peace and is based upon 1500 years of written history. You don't see Christian or Jews or Hindu or Buddist or even athiest going around behedding people in the name of their God. Muslims do these things. Basically we are looking for the truth....God gives it to us daily if we listen.
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Thanks for the clarification Zaki. I read that translation and was about to post the correction myself when I read your post. Now about setting the record straight. I don't think a paragraph on this forum is going to set any record straight. Smarter people have spent lives trying to reconcile the religions of the world and we are still we are where we are. Christ said who ever is innocent he should cast the first stone. So lets see if we can blame all the Muslims and Islam for the actions of a few and we can say that the Quran tells Muslims to kill Christians and Jews, then lets also blame all Christians for the actions of the few bad one and Christianity as well. Lets also look at the Bible about how it tells Christians that the Jews killed Christ and what sort of persecution that engenders. Also the Talmud Tractate Sanhedrin 107b says that “Jesus performed magic and incited the people of Israel and led them astray.” According to these Jewish texts, Jesus was executed for religious crimes and offenses that mattered to Jews. But wait before everyone starts getting defensive my point is not to blame everyone or point out the negative. My point is that everything comes with the good and the bad. Christianity has helped millions, heck billions of people around the world and over time. It has improved the human condition and so has Judaism. Believe it or not so has Islam. Remember the dark ages, when Europe was nothing but a back water of the world. All the enlightenment and learning and tolerance was actually in the Islamic world. Heck Baghdad isn't called the cradle of civilization for no reason. In Europe however, people were burned at the stake for opposing the church, later still protestants were persecuted, Spanish inquisition and much more. Not really much point in listing all that. And now that the enlightenment is centered in a different part of the world we go throwing aspersions on the rest of the world. Here is what history teaches us. If you get arrogant and lazy and begin to consider yourself better than others. You are on the express train to oblivion. The Romans thought all those who weren't from rome were 'barbarians', the Nazi’s thought all those who were not from them were lesser than them. I guess those barbarians showed those Romans and those playboy yanks showed those superior race folks. Not so long ago the general idea was that women weren't as smart or as capable. Even lesser time ago the idea was the blacks were somehow less than human. You see where I am going. If you pass a simple judgment that those people are just crazy or evil you are actually weakening yourself.
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They don't show outrage, because for them it is completely normal all of the above



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Thursday, May 14, 2009

As a person from a developing nation who is moving to the west, would you consider Japan instead

As a person from a developing nation who is moving to the west, would you consider Japan instead?
As most are aware, Japan is begining to slowly lighten its immagration laws as the population ages. Many people from Indonesia for example are moving to Japan to become nurses, along with Japan being just as developed as the west. If you were/are a person moving to a developed country from a developing country in Asia would you consider Japan over the major western nations such as Australia, New Zealand, UK, US and Canada? On the account that the airfares would most likely be cheaper aswell then flying to any western country. Yes there it may be harder to fit into Japanese society then say in Australia where it is already very multicutural but ignoring all that, purely down to quailty of life...would you choose Japan over the west?
Immigration - 2 Answers
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These nurses are on temporary work permits and will never be allowed to be permanent residents. Japan takes very few permanent immigrants and there has to be a proven reason how they will imprive the country. It is essentially impossible for a person from a developing country to get Japanese immigration.
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Go to Japans immigration website and look into the regulations as you cannot just move there and find a job without the necessary documents. You cannot even get thru immigration except as a tourist unless you have a employer sponsoring you.


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Thursday, May 7, 2009

How come when

How come when?
Muslims fly commercial airliners into buildings in New York City. No Muslim outrage. Muslim officials block the exit where school girls are trying to escape a burning building because their faces were exposed. No Muslim outrage. Muslims cut off the heads of three teenaged girls on their way to school in Indonesia. A Christian school. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder teachers trying to teach Muslim children in Iraq. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder over 80 tourists with car bombs outside cafes and hotels in Egypt. No Muslim outrage. A Muslim attacks a missionary children's school in India. Kills six. No Muslim outrage. Muslims slaughter hundreds of children and teachers in Beslan, Russia. Muslims shoot children in the back. No Muslim outrage. Let's go way back. Muslims kidnap and kill athletes at the Munich Summer Olympics. No Muslim outrage. Muslims fire rocket-propelled grenades into schools full of children in Israel. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder more than 50 commuters in attacks on London subways and busses. Over 700 are injured. No Muslim outrage. Muslims massacre dozens of innocents at a Passover Seder. No Muslim outrage. Muslims murder innocent vacationers in Bali. No Muslim outrage. Muslim newspapers publish anti-Semitic cartoons. No Muslim outrage Muslims are involved, on one side or the other, in almost every one of the 125+ shooting wars around the world. No Muslim outrage. Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge. No Muslim outrage. Newspapers in Denmark and Norway publish cartoons depicting Mohammed. Muslims are outraged. Dead children. Dead tourists. Dead teachers. Dead doctors and nurses. Death, destruction and mayhem around the world at the hands of Muslims .. no Muslim outrage ... but publish a cartoon depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban and all hell breaks loose.
Other - Politics & Government - 3 Answers
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You're wrong. There was very widespread outrage at all of these (9/11, Beslan massacre, Egypt, Bali, London Tube bombings etc.). There were emphatic and explicit condemnations from imams and ambassadors and throughout the community. Unless you spend your life plugged into Fox or Rush Limbaugh, you must have noticed that. Try representative media. Your question is more like: Why is the scale of the objections disproportionate? Also this claim is wrong: "Muslims beat the charred bodies of Western civilians with their shoes, then hang them from a bridge." They were in fact 4 American mercenaries contracting for Blackwater USA at Fallujah. Not civilians. 'Soon after the four U.S. "civilian contractors" died in Fallujah, it became obvious they weren't "civilians" at all. All four were trained commandos--at least three had years of experience in elite U.S. military units. They were working for the private mercenary army called "Blackwater USA." All were heavily armed. One carried a Department of Defense ID card. The official story is that these heavily armed mercenaries were in Fallujah to "protect food shipments." But that day, there were no "food shipments" in sight. The Marines had just gone door-to-door arresting men for interrogation--and so there has been speculation in Fallujah that these commandos were on a mission to capture or assassinate people fingered as part of the resistance.'
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The Muslim are as afraid of the terrorists as anyone else. Only difference is, they have to live with them. What would you do if you were born into a family with a bully for a big brother? You would suffer in silence mostly.
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Nice editorial. You could probably get a show on FOX News. Or if you're really lucky you could become Bill O'Reilly's biatch.



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Friday, May 1, 2009

The REAL Birther Conspiracy

The REAL Birther Conspiracy?
Perhaps the real conspiracy behind the Obama Birth Certificate is that he actually IS a bona fide natural-born citizen of Hawaii PRETENDING not to be one, littering the world with false clues to distract the rabid right. While birthers are endless debating the nuances of Kenyan translations and Hawaiian registry law, perusing newspapers from 1961, going door-to-door in Honolulu looking for 80-year old obstetricians and nurses, combing class notebooks from Indonesia, and analyzing watermarks while a motley crew of lawyers who barely agree on what conspiracies they actually subscribe to file competing suits across the country, Obama and his team are snickering in the lunch room. "Is it time to show the seal on the short form? My home scanner did a great job of muddying out the type and flattening the folds." "Tell Gates to rescind Major Cook's orders and watch them think we're on the run." Pure entertainment value for them. They're confidant that it's really a non-issue that will make the Republican Right look like buffoons for another 6 months or more. Is this the REAL conspiracy? Some of the more intelligent conservatives are beginning to think so. I erred in not pointing out the obvious sarcasm in this question. By the way, I have been a registered Republican since long before many of you were born. I am NOT a Liberal. I am, however, convinced that people should 1. Look at source documents, 2. Stop parroting partisans on either side, and 3. think for themselves. I used to believe Americans were intelligent enough to do so. I still have hope.
Politics - 15 Answers
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Guys a Kenyan. If he has nothing to hide, he'd put it out and put it to rest
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I don't believe in conspiracy theories. Only delusional whack jobs do.
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Enough of the birth certificate! You lost, it is not an excuse for losing!
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WOW, JUST WOW
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Racists are deluded people, you won't convince these obama birthers even if they traveled back in time and witnessed his birth. To these 'patriots' only whites are american citizens
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Birthers? And if that was the case, then your president is playing political games and spending a lot of money for nothing. Some of the more intelligent conservatives? Get a grip--veiled insults are still insults. Tell us why he doesn't show the actual certificate...not the COLB. If you have nothing to hide, you don't hide. *back...who mentioned race? no one...seems like you are the racist here. By the way--nobody buys into the racism attack as a method of silencing your opposition anymore. Keep trying..but it's just you crying wolf. I don't care what color the man is--he is destroying this country. You apparently seem to care what color he is. *bigfoot is correct--Hillary first brought it to light, and the first suit was brought by a Dem lawyer who was in the DNC for a long time!
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No, don't change the subject, you filthy lib. Your man won't even show his birth certificate. Why????????????? And it's not Republicans trying to prove the eligibility of the President of the USA by dragging up old birth announcements in the newspaper. It's liberals. Aren't you embarrassed what Obama turned this country into, going through old newspapers because he's keeping information from Americans? Because you're wrong, L Saint, it hasn't been released.
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I think you might be onto something. While there might be a lunatic fringe on both sides of the isle, this situation highlights a minority group of right wing nut jobs. Thus, it casts the GOP in an unflattering light. By the way, his birth certificate has been released. the right refuses to acknowledge it for some reason. I am pretty sure there is nothing you could possibly do to get them to take the tin foil hats off at this point.
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He is paying a lot of someone's money to prevent releasing his long form original birth certificate. Are we supposed to believe he is doing this to "punk" the country, and that any minute now, Ashton Kutcher is going to come out of hiding and laugh at everyone? THAT is a stretch.
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And that's why he apparently spent over half a million dollars sealing records, lol... EDIT: If Obama is correct and he has nothing to hide, why did he spend all that money to seal his records. Who is really the stupid one? - Libertarian
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Dude, Obama doesn't care about this stuff. Hawaii has verified his birth there. BTW, why do the Right constant lie about Obama taking pains to "seal' is birth certificate? No one has to seal their birth certificate, transcripts, medical record, etc. They are sealed by law.
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ll other issues aside, Barack is one of us because his mom was a full blown AMERICAN CITIZEN. Nobody has denied that absolute FACT! I bring this up because American law is clear on this issue.....if you have a single parent who IS an American citizen, it doesn't matter where on Earth, the moon or in what parallel universe you're born...YOU are an AMERICAN CITIZEN!!! In fact, it doesn't even matter if you don't have a birth certificate...all that matters is that one of your parents has citizenship. Barack's mom was an AMERICAN, so therefore our president is also a natural born citizen of our country. Please pass the word on this!
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This whole "Obama's not an American" gambit has gone from hilarious to ok give it up. He is an American by birth and all of those who disagree ought to be embarrassed at their lack of intelligence. If Obama really was born in another country, the Clinton machine would have blown his cover in the primaries. Our President was born in our country under our laws. He is one of us.
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I like your last line, but hope is dwindling, too many people listen to talk radio and mistake opinions of the people for "facts" and they never go farther than that. If you only get your information from one source, then you are going to make many many false assumptions. Whether you agree or not, people really should listen to both sides of an issue, so as to make a somewhat informed decision. People are all too willing to let someone else do their thinking and then claim whatever ideology is being spouted as their own without really knowing what the hell they are even talking about. But to get off my original rant and actually answer the birther conspiracy joke, it is hard not laugh at the stupidity of it all, even Bill O'Reilly said he was convinced Obama's citizenship was valid. Do these people really think the US Gov't didn't examine his records when it became apparent he was going to be in national politics? And how about the DNC, before throwing their weight behind him wouldn't you think he would have been thoroughly investigated? To these people I would advise they actually find some issues to be concerned with (for a change). Why waste time on such a stupid thing, unless that is all they are capable of focusing on.
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The birth certificate issue is a non-sequituer issue. If there were any truth or evidence remotely challenging Obama's eligibility, the civil suits would have been filed the minute he became the Dem's nominee. I agree that the radical right wing idiots keep dragging it out. I say, "Shit, Piss or get off the pot" and file the cases.


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